23 November 2020 @ 10:03 pm
Stop Me Please  
Okay.

Okay okay okay. I'm watching a series of video essays about how terrible Fifty Shades of Grey is, and how the films of Fifty Shades of Grey are equally terrible but in a slightly different way (apart from the first one, which is apparently at least better than it's source material, if not outright good) and I'm here thinking... I kinda want to read Fifty Shades of Grey just to see if I could actually wrangle a workable story out of it's component parts. Which - yes, terrible. Why would I do that. I don't want to work through those fucking books just for this. BUT. Apparently the books are almost indistinguishable from the fic it was based on - E L James allowed almost no editing to be done to her work at all - but according to the guy who make the video essays, there is, within Fifty Shades the... suggestion of a hint of an interesting erotica thriller or erotica horror within its pages. And I find that super interesting?? I think it's partially because I enjoy doing beta work but I sort of what to see if there's something to be made out of those building blocks. There probably isn't - or, more likely, there is, but it's beyond my ability to tease out - but can you imagine a good Fifty Shades? What would that look like? I never realised these books were so incomprehensible until watching these videos. Like, some truly batshit stuff happens in it, and of course Christian Grey is into BDSM because he was badtouched as a child. Of course. But surely there are workarounds to all that? Christian Grey could be the villain and the story is Ana realising he's controlling and abusive. Or he could just, you know, get actually decent therapy, though that's not a compelling narrative...

Oh my god I'm going to be thinking about this so much. Whyyyyyy...


PS the videos are A Lukewarm Defense of Fifty Shades of Grey, Lukewarm Defense 2: Things Go Downhill Very Quickly and Lukewarm Defense 3: Freed by Folding Ideas. If anyone wants to follow me into this madness.
 
 
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cassie[personal profile] kiss_me_cassie on November 24th, 2020 01:20 am (UTC)
I would read a re-telling written by you. I will NOT read the original in fic or published fiction form.
franztastisch: books[personal profile] franztastisch on November 24th, 2020 07:13 pm (UTC)
That is... completely fair. I'm just SO INTRIGUED by it's utter terribleness? And also it uses so many tropes there must be an actual story in there SOMEWHERE.
[personal profile] alistra on November 24th, 2020 07:14 am (UTC)
So far I've only seen tiny snippets of 50 Shades posted by outraged fanfic writers with aspirations of becoming Published Authours. Back on LJ! OMG, a lifetime ago.

As with every other book people think very strongly about, be it in a good or bad context, revisiting it and forming your own opinion a good long while later can only be a positive thing. (I first read Potter 10+ years after the hype, largely disconnecting it from expectations.)

Worst case: You discover it's not all that terrible, but now have an informed opinion.

Best case: it turns out to genuinely BE that terrible, which will give you the vindication of knowing just how accomplished you are as both writer and editor in your own right. :D
franztastisch: shield[personal profile] franztastisch on November 24th, 2020 07:16 pm (UTC)
You're probably right (though I do have to say that half the fun with Harry Potter was the hype that surrounded it at the time of publication. By and large, it was just wholesome, which is... so rare these days.)

And I'm not sure I want to READ it? I think I want to Have Read it. But I also really, really, do want to try my hand at rewriting it. It's just so... batshit.